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How do you replace a 757?
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John R. Levine
2009-06-07 00:02:57 UTC
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The 757-200 is quite an airplane, seating 200 people with a 3900 mile
range, making it quite the plane of choice for long thin routes. The
closest thing that Boeing has in production is the 737-700 which flies 126
people 3300 miles, or the -700ER which is 5500 miles, but still only 126
people. The A321 has the range, if you pay for it, but it still smaller.

What options do airlines flying 757's have? Wait for the 787?

R's,
John
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AES
2009-06-07 01:45:09 UTC
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Post by John R. Levine
The 757-200 is quite an airplane, seating 200 people with a 3900 mile
range, making it quite the plane of choice for long thin routes. The
closest thing that Boeing has in production is the 737-700 which flies 126
people 3300 miles, or the -700ER which is 5500 miles, but still only 126
people. The A321 has the range, if you pay for it, but it still smaller.
What options do airlines flying 757's have? Wait for the 787?
I can't resist responding, even if I'm off topic, and maybe off my meds.

I still remember vividly the very first flight I took on a 757, quite
soon after it was introduced -- and the fiery letter I wrote to the
airline immediately after, ranting (unfortunately unrealistically) that
I'd never fly in one of them again.

From the extensive publicity that had been sent out at about that time,
I was fully willing to accept that the 757 was great advance in airplane
design in terms of its technical capabilities -- range, economy of
operation, and so on.

The problem was, the internal width of its fuselage was just simply
about a meter too narrow for the 6-across seats and totally inadequate
aisle width they had stuffed into it; and there never could be -- and
never was -- any way around this.

I won't miss it.
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JF Mezei
2009-06-07 07:36:28 UTC
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Post by John R. Levine
The 757-200 is quite an airplane, seating 200 people with a 3900 mile
range, making it quite the plane of choice for long thin routes.
Considering that Boeing stopped selling the plane some time ago and
shutdown the production line, would it be fair to state that despite its
good performance, the demand for this type of aircraft just isn't strong
enough to warrant updating the 757 ?

If we rewind a few years back when the NG had a long bright future,
shouldn't Boeing have produced a version of the 737 that could replace
the 757 ?

At this point in time, if the 737 is doome to extinction, I can see why
Boeing wouldn't want to create a new derivative for the 737.

However, consider that Airbus never really bothered with the long range
aspects of the 757.

Back when Airbus produced the 321, couldn't it have produced an ER
version to provide a palatable replacement to the 757 ? Could it have
done so ? Or are the 320 engines just not cut out for such a mission?&


In terms of comfort, the 757 was just a long narrow tube. A glorified
737 with strange nose and bigger engines and longer cabin.
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Miles Bader
2009-06-07 09:02:06 UTC
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Post by JF Mezei
In terms of comfort, the 757 was just a long narrow tube. A glorified
737 with strange nose and bigger engines and longer cabin.
Sure it's nice to be on a widebody for a 14-hour flight, but... I never
noticed any particular discomfort on the 757. I actually have vaguely
fond memories of U.S. domestic flights on 757s -- it always seemed kind
of nimble, practically hopping off the ground during takeoff instead of
lumbering into the air like bigger planes do.

-Miles
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John Levine
2009-06-07 10:38:08 UTC
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Post by JF Mezei
In terms of comfort, the 757 was just a long narrow tube. A glorified
737 with strange nose and bigger engines and longer cabin.
I'd say it's an updated 707. The 757 and 707 are the same size tube,
both 3.76 meters wide.

There's clearly a need for what the 757 does, since Boeing made over
1000 of them, nearly all of which are still in service. I don't
understand airplane design well enough to know if an A322 with more
seats and a longer range would be feasible.

R's,
John
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