JF Mezei
2010-01-18 09:49:12 UTC
BBC reports that "bankrupcy" for JAL should be reality this Tuesday.
I assume that this is closer to "chapter 11" since they talk about
restructuring. JAL's shares are now near worthless.
Some reports say that JAL would ditch its fleet of 747s.
Found a march 2009 fleet at:
http://www.jal.com/en/corporate/gaiyo/flight.html
(it is near the end of the page).
Since almost all their 747s are owned (as opposed to leased) , does it
make sense to sell them now ? Is there much of a market for used 747s at
present ?
Or are their operating costs such that it is better to ground them ?
I can see some reasoning behind retiring 747-200 and -300s.
Looks to me like their domestic fleet is rather "mixed" and could do
with some streamlining.
There is talk that Delta may convince the "new" JAL to join Skyteam, and
American Airlines trying hard to keep JAL in Oneworld.
While I can see the strategic value for DL or AA as indidual airlines
who lack an asian network, are airline alliances still as important as
they used to be ?
The impression I get from my canadian viewpoint is that people don't
have as much loyalty to their airline as they used to. When alliances
were introduced, they were mean to be "seamless" between member
airlines. And back then, getting free flights from your points wasn't
just a dream.
That "seamless" travel has eroded over the years, especially when
luggage rules stopped being uniform, so what may have been allowed in
the outbound flight may end up costing you an arm and a leg on the
return flight.
While alliances may still provide "value" to premium travellers (access
to lounges for instance), to the average j.q.public, do they still
provide any value ?
For AA or DL, would this be more of a case of them wanting to take over
JAL's Japan-USA flights and make use of idle capacity in their fleet ?
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I assume that this is closer to "chapter 11" since they talk about
restructuring. JAL's shares are now near worthless.
Some reports say that JAL would ditch its fleet of 747s.
Found a march 2009 fleet at:
http://www.jal.com/en/corporate/gaiyo/flight.html
(it is near the end of the page).
Since almost all their 747s are owned (as opposed to leased) , does it
make sense to sell them now ? Is there much of a market for used 747s at
present ?
Or are their operating costs such that it is better to ground them ?
I can see some reasoning behind retiring 747-200 and -300s.
Looks to me like their domestic fleet is rather "mixed" and could do
with some streamlining.
There is talk that Delta may convince the "new" JAL to join Skyteam, and
American Airlines trying hard to keep JAL in Oneworld.
While I can see the strategic value for DL or AA as indidual airlines
who lack an asian network, are airline alliances still as important as
they used to be ?
The impression I get from my canadian viewpoint is that people don't
have as much loyalty to their airline as they used to. When alliances
were introduced, they were mean to be "seamless" between member
airlines. And back then, getting free flights from your points wasn't
just a dream.
That "seamless" travel has eroded over the years, especially when
luggage rules stopped being uniform, so what may have been allowed in
the outbound flight may end up costing you an arm and a leg on the
return flight.
While alliances may still provide "value" to premium travellers (access
to lounges for instance), to the average j.q.public, do they still
provide any value ?
For AA or DL, would this be more of a case of them wanting to take over
JAL's Japan-USA flights and make use of idle capacity in their fleet ?
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