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Some Qantas news
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JF Mezei
2009-06-09 00:45:10 UTC
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BBC Interviewed the Qantas CEO:

QF is delaying 4 380s by up to a year.
Also delaying 12 737s by up to a year.

General capacity decrease of 5%.

On some routes (San Francisco and Brasil were mentioned), they are
reducing First Class apacity immediatly. How ? They will simply sell a
number of physical first class seats as "business class" seats which
increases business class capacity while reducing the number of seats
available for purchase in first class.

In a different interview, the Singapore CEO said that they would accept
delivery of all the planes that were scheduled to be delivered this
year, saying that in most cases, the new plane's improved fuel
efficiency justifies receiving the aircraft now.
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Roland Perry
2009-06-09 12:04:25 UTC
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Post by JF Mezei
On some routes (San Francisco and Brasil were mentioned), they are
reducing First Class apacity immediatly. How ? They will simply sell a
number of physical first class seats as "business class" seats which
increases business class capacity while reducing the number of seats
available for purchase in first class.
I've been discussing AF 447 (which I took in 2007) with some people, and
since then they seem to have reclassified FC totally on their 330's (it
had 3 classes then, only 2 now), but the layout still has the original
cabins with better seats up front.
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Jeff Hacker
2009-06-10 00:04:43 UTC
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US Airways has the same thing with their Airbus 330 fleet - the 6 former
First Class seats are now sold as Envoy (their Business Class), as lie-flat
sleepers for a surcharge over their regular Envoy seats.
Post by Roland Perry
Post by JF Mezei
On some routes (San Francisco and Brasil were mentioned), they are
reducing First Class apacity immediatly. How ? They will simply sell a
number of physical first class seats as "business class" seats which
increases business class capacity while reducing the number of seats
available for purchase in first class.
I've been discussing AF 447 (which I took in 2007) with some people, and
since then they seem to have reclassified FC totally on their 330's (it
had 3 classes then, only 2 now), but the layout still has the original
cabins with better seats up front.
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John Levine
2009-06-10 11:52:16 UTC
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Post by Jeff Hacker
US Airways has the same thing with their Airbus 330 fleet - the 6 former
First Class seats are now sold as Envoy (their Business Class), as lie-flat
sleepers for a surcharge over their regular Envoy seats.
The surcharge is fairly new. I flew years ago when anyone who knew to
ask for row 1 got it.

R's,
John
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Robin Johnson
2009-06-10 04:27:20 UTC
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Post by JF Mezei
QF is delaying 4 380s by up to a year.
Also delaying 12 737s by up to a year.
General capacity decrease of 5%.
On some routes (San Francisco and Brasil were mentioned), they are
reducing First Class apacity immediatly. How ? They will simply sell a
number of physical first class seats as "business class" seats which
increases business class capacity while reducing the number of seats
available for purchase in first class.
Probably not.
Qantas do not fly to Brazil: their on-line SA destination is Buenos
Aires,
This is one of the routes they plan to use 2 or 3-class 744s on, (The
third
is Premium Economy). The various current seatplans are
14 First; 52 Business; 32 Premium Economy; 255 Economy*
14 First; 50 Business; 32 Premium Economy; 255 Economy*
14 First; 66 Business; 265 Economy*
14 First; 64 Business; 265 Economy*
14 First; 66 Business; 40 Premium Economy; 187 Economy*
56 Business; 356 Economy*
And, I would guess, soon something like
66 Business; 40 Premium Economy; 250 Economy*

dates of implementation will presumably soon be available.
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